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Rule number 16 on the website states the use of cell phones by the competitors is for emergency use only.
Another website is haveing a post with one of the competitors in the top 3, in direct contact with them giving on the water updates via text messages...just wondering how this doesn't break rule 16? I made a post about this on the other website and funny how it was deleted.
Any thoughts???
Good point Todd
LOL - I brought the same issue up last year with another group and they quickly retracted their posts - were naive to think that it's not going on.
Another issue could be with smartphones that have navionics apps, google earth apps and some guys use their phone as their GPS now. May be a rule that needs revising.
Good Point
I can't speak for Bassmania in anyway but at the meeting everyone was given the information by National Prostaff and where encouraged to provide live feeds. so there is no rule infraction from what I can see.
Peace Out
Dan
Yeah NPS was asking people to provide live updates by texting to a specific number. The number was distributed at the meeting so no rule infraction. I would guess the rule is in placoe to discourage sharing spot info among other things. I dont think this type of cell communication is detrimental. it is trying to rasise the profile of the sport through social media. Probably be more of it in the future.
if thats the case then csfl needs to take that rule out
The rule is in place to stop communication that may give you a unfair advantage, like calling other anglers or friends for info on other parts of the lake. The rule serves a good purpose and should not be removed.
Not trying to start anything here, but if you are tweeting is it not the same thing. :?
Say a bunch of guys have ther phones on who are fishing the tournament, and someone tweets " Man I just wacked a good smallie and had a bunch follow it " then a couple minutes later from the same guy " The smallies are on fire right now, can't keep them off the line, have my limit and am starting to cull them". I know he is not giving up the spot, but this would indicate that maybe people should be fishing for smallies, I don't know just a thought I had :?.
my point exactly dave. why have the rule if it is only going to be allowed to be broken?
I'm assuming this is all about the csfl classic? Go back and look at the tweets, there is no mention of spots, species or baits. You had to sign up with NPS to send them texts and only them. You could not go on twitter and post updates, you had to send them to NPS and then they were reviewed and re posted. I think it was pretty cool. There are always grey areas in the rule book, we have to police ourselves when it comes to rules.
The only way I see this is an opportunity to grow our sport. If people are interested in our classic, and have a chance to follow a more regular update as the day progresses, they may be more inclined to show up at the weigh-in to see the final results.
In no way was this intended to give up spots, locations or anything that would help fellow anglers. I was so busy I didnt have time to think to look at the posts to see what everyone else is doing.
Also I have read several times now not to fish against the other anglers, but to fish against the fish. I can't control what other anglers are doing even if they post and tell me what they are doing. I can only control what I am doing and what my fish in my waters are doing. That said, lol, I dont do that very well either!!:P
Its a cool idea. It makes sense to modify the standard rules for what are committed and trusted 'clients' in order to introduce tournament fishing via a different medium.
I tuned in...........but I only found updates from Rankie (and 1 from MacDonald). Were there other guys posting?
those were the only 2. while a specific spot wasn't given it was mentioned that 2 fish were caught in the river. my arguement isnt with the on the water updates its with the rule. The rule states very clearly that cell phones are for emergency use only. maybe a change to the rule is in order???
Do you really think anyone fishing the classic wants to give out spots. Yes NPS asked for details and I personaly dont have an issue with guys forwarding information for the public to keep updated. Lets grow the sport, B.A.S.S have basstrac. Flw has basscam or vise a versa, dont know how many post ive read asking for results. wouldnt it be great to have up to date standings live or at least same day. just my two cents.
I think it is pretty cool, giving on th water updates for sure, allows people to follow the unfolding of the event - who has what throughout the day. It has long been the missing link that seperates our sport from so many others - the whole spectator thing... very cool idea - If I had heard and known about it, Rob adn I certainly would have shared our catches throughout the weekend - obviously we needed to pay closer attention at the meeting :)!!
Don't think the original poster is saying anything except that the wording in the rules may need some revision. I am sure that he sees the opportunities for growing the sport. That doesn't seem to be the issue. A precident has now been set, thus requiring some new wording in the literature or people will have an argument when they are busted for using their phones in another event.
What about sky writing info? Just asking?
guess people can't read to well..here read my post again.Quote:
Originally posted by toddcrowley
those were the only 2. while a specific spot wasn't given it was mentioned that 2 fish were caught in the river. my arguement isnt with the on the water updates its with the rule. The rule states very clearly that cell phones are for emergency use only. maybe a change to the rule is in order???
You are right Todd, that was an infraction according to the rules. I personally would love to see cells left on shore. What did we do when we didn't have them.
Something should be addressed
On this as I see this rule broken all the time.
As mentioned this was addressed at the meeting and Andy and NPs staff made the annoucement so effectively is that not the rule change just a thought
Maybe clarified to say...
Allowed: tweeting and texting of current fishing status updates.
NOT Allowed: texts or tweets or status updates or viewing board threads or calling/recieving calls from friends, mothers, brothers, fathers, fellow competitors and/or especially wives who may be on the water sharing info or need milk on the way home.
Lie detectors and phone records please! lol ?LOL
Phil, as funny a guy as you are you've hit the nail on the head. Too many "groups" of guys have been sharing that kind of info during the pre-fish and on tourney days . Cell phones and now social media has enhanced their ability to communicate with each other. NO CELL PHONES PERIOD DURING TOURNEYS!! (if you need to use it then you're in such dire need that you're out anyways) (yes salesmen, exporters, and realestate agents (me included) as well) put the phone down!! If anyone thinks this isn't happening you need to pull your head outta the sand. I'm not bitter about this one way or the other (zero tourneys this year) but the reality is fellow competitors are doing it. They have been for years. It's the information era baby. The no cell phone rule should not only stand but be ENFORCED......
I say let them tweet, I'll be fishing.
I think the phone rule should be omitted. Kevin you are right!It is the information era. That will not change, it will only get better or worse depending at how you see it. I don't fish tournaments so my opinion is not intended to get guys backs up. I am also realistic. It is part of the game now. Can't really see the big deal. Guys always say on these boards that you fish against the fish, not the competitors.Quote:
Originally posted by Kevin Knox
It's the information era baby. The no cell phone rule should not only stand but be ENFORCED......
I believe the only way to do this, is for scrutineers, spectator boats or volunteers/employees of the tournament organization to be doing the website/twitter or face book updates, the anglers shouldn’t be allowed to read or write updates, or touch their phone unless it’s an emergency. This is what BASS and FLW do.
Allowing cell phone use other than emergencies just provides another gray area that will be taken advantage of or create speculation. Cell phones should be off during competition and only used for emergency. Do we really need another reason to point fingers?
Enforce the rule.
Rules should be black and white.....period!!!
I have seen so many rules broken without penalty and there are so many useless rules that can't be inforced in team tournaments.
If you even look at your phone to check the time...DQ!!!
Black and White
Some of you may remember why the cell phone rule was added to bassmania (long over due). Why blur the lines with allowing phone use for any reason....other than emergency.
The rules don't need to be revised, they need to be enforced.
No cell phones......turn them off and go fishing.
This is not directed at any one organization. In my opinion most here in Ontario are guilty of this. With the exception of Renegade because I have never fished one of their events.
If I am doing poorly after day one, and my buddy is doing very well, phone calls could make his day 2 go very well also. I find fish, he moves in, I move out. The rule is clear. No phones other than emergency. Unfortunately, when rules are not enforced, competitors tend to drift away. Not trying to steal the thread, but I kind of drifted away when my fishing area was encroached by other competitors. The worst part was, the violators were well known in the fishing community and left me with no alternatives. I can see the blatant violation of cell phones causing more damage.
Turn them off?! Then how will I play Brick Breaker on my Blackberry. I can't believe we're still on this. lol!